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	<description>Mac &#38; Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut</description>
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		<title>By: Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on WebKit Webmail.app</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4777</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on WebKit Webmail.app</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 12:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (On a pedantic note, I see from comparing his original post  with this one, that the browser is built with the WebKit demo from the Web Kit development team. I am still confused about this, despite John Gruber&#8217;s post  on the differences and Daniel Jalkut&#8217;s patient further explanation ). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (On a pedantic note, I see from comparing his original post  with this one, that the browser is built with the WebKit demo from the Web Kit development team. I am still confused about this, despite John Gruber&#8217;s post  on the differences and Daniel Jalkut&#8217;s patient further explanation ). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Casing</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4715</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Casing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You just got to love Daniel Jalkut&#8217;s take on John Grube&#8217;s plea for consistent spacing and casing. However, I think he&#8217;s sadly mistaken on the benefit of casing PDFKit just so. Of course it&#8217;s PdfKit. Upper-casing PDF makes the Kit part hard to read, giving PDF unjustified attention. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You just got to love Daniel Jalkut&#8217;s take on John Grube&#8217;s plea for consistent spacing and casing. However, I think he&#8217;s sadly mistaken on the benefit of casing PDFKit just so. Of course it&#8217;s PdfKit. Upper-casing PDF makes the Kit part hard to read, giving PDF unjustified attention. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Niccas</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4671</link>
		<dc:creator>Niccas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 09:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years back a colleage and I developed an Access DB to track user calls to our (small) help desk.. We called it the Follow Up Call Utility.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years back a colleage and I developed an Access DB to track user calls to our (small) help desk.. We called it the Follow Up Call Utility&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Maddocks</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4662</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Maddocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 03:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard! MacFanDave, that&#039;s the funniest thing I&#039;ve read in a l long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard! MacFanDave, that&#8217;s the funniest thing I&#8217;ve read in a l long time.</p>
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		<title>By: MacFanDave</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4657</link>
		<dc:creator>MacFanDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 22:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard they are working on a framework called &quot;Foundation User Controls&quot; and that the Apple Usage Manual (preliminary) is unequivocal about the spacing:  Not only will the abbreviation be separated from the word &quot;Kit&quot;, it must be separated by a full carriage return.  Thus, it will appear as the

FUC
Kit

There&#039;s speculation that, in the final version, the seperator may be a full page break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard they are working on a framework called &#8220;Foundation User Controls&#8221; and that the Apple Usage Manual (preliminary) is unequivocal about the spacing:  Not only will the abbreviation be separated from the word &#8220;Kit&#8221;, it must be separated by a full carriage return.  Thus, it will appear as the</p>
<p>FUC<br />
Kit</p>
<p>There&#8217;s speculation that, in the final version, the seperator may be a full page break.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Grey</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4650</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, regarding the use of this word: pedantic.

&quot;...I appreciate Gruber’s complaint for all its pedantic charm.&quot;

I would say that there is not a trace of the pedant in any of Gruber&#039;s post, it is merely idiosyncratic and fastidious.

The very first line of his post  &quot;As a stickler for detail and consistency, this has been driving me nuts ever since the framework was announced.&quot; makes this rather plain.

Pedantic relates specifically to form, procedure, or learning (knowledge). Thus within the definitions of the word, a pedant can be called narrow-minded, for example, but it is only applicable if he is in fact narrow-minded in his adherence to form, procedure, or learning.

Gruber&#039;s last line &quot;But I don’t really care which spelling Apple settles on, I just want it settled.&quot; indicated that he does not care at all about form, procedure, or learning (knowledge), and therefore falls outside of the definitions of the word.

One can find &quot;pedantic charm,&quot; however, in sentence like &quot;By using the sans-espace WebKit nomenclature, the author communicates to developers that the framework itself is specifically being referred to. &quot;A narrow-minded observation of form&quot; could be appropriately used by a critic to describe that sentence. In that sentence you justify the use of the naming form and leave out the possibility of non-developers having trouble interpreting the the word&#039;s additional meaning.

Although there are several definitions of the word, especially cross-referencing British and American English dictionaries, I have chosen one to illustrate the dependence of the word to form, procedure, or learning (knowledge).

And of course, my reply is rather pedantic...

I love Red Sweater and Daring Fireball, both are exceptionally creative and interesting reads.

Keep up the good work ^^;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, regarding the use of this word: pedantic.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I appreciate Gruber’s complaint for all its pedantic charm.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would say that there is not a trace of the pedant in any of Gruber&#8217;s post, it is merely idiosyncratic and fastidious.</p>
<p>The very first line of his post  &#8220;As a stickler for detail and consistency, this has been driving me nuts ever since the framework was announced.&#8221; makes this rather plain.</p>
<p>Pedantic relates specifically to form, procedure, or learning (knowledge). Thus within the definitions of the word, a pedant can be called narrow-minded, for example, but it is only applicable if he is in fact narrow-minded in his adherence to form, procedure, or learning.</p>
<p>Gruber&#8217;s last line &#8220;But I don’t really care which spelling Apple settles on, I just want it settled.&#8221; indicated that he does not care at all about form, procedure, or learning (knowledge), and therefore falls outside of the definitions of the word.</p>
<p>One can find &#8220;pedantic charm,&#8221; however, in sentence like &#8220;By using the sans-espace WebKit nomenclature, the author communicates to developers that the framework itself is specifically being referred to. &#8220;A narrow-minded observation of form&#8221; could be appropriately used by a critic to describe that sentence. In that sentence you justify the use of the naming form and leave out the possibility of non-developers having trouble interpreting the the word&#8217;s additional meaning.</p>
<p>Although there are several definitions of the word, especially cross-referencing British and American English dictionaries, I have chosen one to illustrate the dependence of the word to form, procedure, or learning (knowledge).</p>
<p>And of course, my reply is rather pedantic&#8230;</p>
<p>I love Red Sweater and Daring Fireball, both are exceptionally creative and interesting reads.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work ^^;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/133/frameworks-kits-and-caboodles/comment-page-1#comment-4642</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 14:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I realize it&#039;s a personal decision whether to have comments on one&#039;s blog, but I&#039;m glad you do, because John doesn&#039;t and I wanted a place to put my two cents. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I realize it&#8217;s a personal decision whether to have comments on one&#8217;s blog, but I&#8217;m glad you do, because John doesn&#8217;t and I wanted a place to put my two cents. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 14:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a time I was trying to download the WebKit framework, I think it was for Jaguar, before it was built-in.  I couldn&#039;t find the darned thing by searching for &quot;WebKit&quot; at apple.com.  As I recall, when I finally found it I saw that searching for &quot;Web Kit&quot; would have worked, but even then it might not have been the top hit in the search results.  I was so pissed at (a) the spelling inconsistency and (b) Apple&#039;s lame search.

I&#039;m not convinced by arguments that rationalize the inconsistency.  I agree that &quot;PDFKit&quot; and &quot;IOKit&quot; look perfectly okay -- I had the same thought when I read John&#039;s article.  I wish they had left the spaces out everywhere.

The &quot;Application Kit&quot; / &quot;AppKit&quot; distinction actually cost me a tiny bit of development time, since there are places where AppKiDo has to realize they&#039;re the same thing (it standardizes on &quot;AppKit&quot; for all display purposes, by the way).

Speaking of consistent wording, I noticed the docs for the various versions of -setDelegate: all use different wordings to say &quot;sets the delegate,&quot; and only some of them mention that it doesn&#039;t retain the delegate.  I didn&#039;t bother asking that all the docs use the same wording, but  I did submit a comment saying they should all mention the non-retaining, because it&#039;s the kind of thing a person could easily trip on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time I was trying to download the WebKit framework, I think it was for Jaguar, before it was built-in.  I couldn&#8217;t find the darned thing by searching for &#8220;WebKit&#8221; at apple.com.  As I recall, when I finally found it I saw that searching for &#8220;Web Kit&#8221; would have worked, but even then it might not have been the top hit in the search results.  I was so pissed at (a) the spelling inconsistency and (b) Apple&#8217;s lame search.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced by arguments that rationalize the inconsistency.  I agree that &#8220;PDFKit&#8221; and &#8220;IOKit&#8221; look perfectly okay &#8212; I had the same thought when I read John&#8217;s article.  I wish they had left the spaces out everywhere.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Application Kit&#8221; / &#8220;AppKit&#8221; distinction actually cost me a tiny bit of development time, since there are places where AppKiDo has to realize they&#8217;re the same thing (it standardizes on &#8220;AppKit&#8221; for all display purposes, by the way).</p>
<p>Speaking of consistent wording, I noticed the docs for the various versions of -setDelegate: all use different wordings to say &#8220;sets the delegate,&#8221; and only some of them mention that it doesn&#8217;t retain the delegate.  I didn&#8217;t bother asking that all the docs use the same wording, but  I did submit a comment saying they should all mention the non-retaining, because it&#8217;s the kind of thing a person could easily trip on.</p>
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