Comments on: The Future Of Mac App Store Installs http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs Mac & Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut Wed, 08 Oct 2014 03:07:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: Mitch Livingston http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-158312 Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:02:10 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-158312 10.6.7 no longer shows apps as installed that were not downloaded from the app store. When “buy” is clicked, a prompt is displayed saying you have it from somewhere else, with the option to re-buy it through the app store.

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By: Martin Perry http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155200 Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:11:48 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155200 The line of most interest to me as an Aperture user is this which points at an upcoming v4.0 of the product?

if ( system.compareVersions( info.CFBundleShortVersionString, “3.0” ) >= 0
&& system.compareVersions( info.CFBundleShortVersionString, “4.0” ) < 0 )

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By: Seth Milliken http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155095 Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155095 JD: You just need to make a folder of aliases. Create an empty folder, then Command-Option-drag the applications you want accessible from the Dock into that folder; drag the folder to the Dock. Viola! The originals will remain where MAS and Software Update expect to find them, but you can also access them from the Dock.

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By: Philippe Bardet http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155046 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:15:15 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155046 I currently have Aperture 3 installed on my machine (as a trial version) but I have never activated the 30-day trial code Apple sent me, due to a lack of time to test. The Mac App Store thinks that Aperture is installed and therefore prevents me from buying it.

I’m not sure if activating the demo will lead to being able to buy the software once the 30-day trial is over. Another thing to test.

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By: JD http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155034 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:17:30 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155034 Interesting read, coming from someone with absolutely no developer background, I’m just a user.

However, there is one thing that I find annoying with MAS (and Software Update) that I would like to see a solution for. I placed all the iLife apps into a folder that I put in the dock (Applications>iLife) obviously saving Dock space but still convenient. MAS showed iPhoto, iMovie and Garageband as available for purchase. Software Update would NOT show any of them available for update. Moving them back into the Applications folder solved both, but is a pain in the ass otherwise

It seems like this would be solvable with something like iTunes needing to have a song relinked.

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By: Martin Pilkington http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155033 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:59:31 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155033 @Didier It’s not all that interesting. Apple uses HTML all over the place for UI in place of Cocoa. The email display in Mail, the chat view in iChat, the iTunes store. HTML, CSS & JS are a very good set of technologies for *displaying* content. If you want to display some data in a largely readonly way but with a custom appearance, then HTML is better than Cocoa. But when it gets to more complicated UI then Cocoa is used as it is more powerful.

Basically, it is using the strengths of one to cover the weakness of the other in both cases.

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By: Richard Gaywood http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155030 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:02:33 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155030 Neat trick with the Inspector, Daniel. As part of my investigation for TUAW (http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/06/mac-app-store-by-the-numbers-almost-1-000-apps-on-day-one/) I went a different route and captured the raw HTML of every store category page with a proxy sniffer. This allows statistical analysis across all the Buy buttons in the store. If you think you can use this data for anything (for example looking for other anomalous Javascript), let me know.

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By: Didier Prophete http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155027 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:26:42 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155027 Am I the only who finds it interesting that apple is using html5 for this app, and not their own objc/cocoa…

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By: Conor http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155025 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:49:56 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155025 I believe Apple should provide upgrades for those apps that it’s now showing as installed. It avoids customer confusion and it’s a way for users to move their license to the Mac App Store which in turn means customers get used to only upgrading and purchasing in the Mac App Store. If a developer does want to keep separate version he would use separate bundle identifier for each distributions. Updating apps Apple never originally took a 30% commission on is costly, but no more than serving up free movie trailers and it does vastly more to improve the Mac experience.

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By: Matt Stevens http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1566/the-future-of-mac-app-store-installs/comment-page-1#comment-155024 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 03:21:23 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=1566#comment-155024 There’s another piece to this I’m curious to learn about: how the buy button state is determined for Apple’s apps. If you run the App Store with an old version of iLife or iWork installed you’ll still get the option to buy even though the bundle IDs match. From what I can see the preflight archive isn’t downloaded until the user actually clicks the buy button, nor is there any additional JavaScript loaded in the store page, yet a check similar to to the preflight script is being run to support the paid upgrade.

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