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	<title>Comments on: Pair&#8217;s Double Entendre</title>
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	<description>Mac &#38; Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Crandell</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Crandell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose MediaTemple may have some advantages over DreamHost but they are located in the same building and also went down last summer when the entire facility had a power outage and the shared UPS and back up diesels all failed. You've got to give it to Pair for their stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose MediaTemple may have some advantages over DreamHost but they are located in the same building and also went down last summer when the entire facility had a power outage and the shared UPS and back up diesels all failed. You&#8217;ve got to give it to Pair for their stability.</p>
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		<title>By: jon deal</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132550</link>
		<dc:creator>jon deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kevin, having your our server solves many of those sorts of problems. 

It's a more expensive option as you'll probably want to co-locate in a data center, but it's nice to be "root" and be able (within reason) to do whatever you want. Though that's just one more hassle to have to deal with, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kevin, having your our server solves many of those sorts of problems. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a more expensive option as you&#8217;ll probably want to co-locate in a data center, but it&#8217;s nice to be &#8220;root&#8221; and be able (within reason) to do whatever you want. Though that&#8217;s just one more hassle to have to deal with, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132548</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear by &lt;a href="http://www.mediatemple.net" rel="nofollow"&gt;MediaTemple&lt;/a&gt;. I was a TextDrive fan, but their support is lackluster whereas MediaTemple gives me great support when I need it (rarely).

MacZealots, PocketTweets, client Rails apps and more are hosted off my MT boxes.  I love it.

Best of all, unlike Dreamhost, they are transparent when they have issues or fuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear by <a href="http://www.mediatemple.net" rel="nofollow">MediaTemple</a>. I was a TextDrive fan, but their support is lackluster whereas MediaTemple gives me great support when I need it (rarely).</p>
<p>MacZealots, PocketTweets, client Rails apps and more are hosted off my MT boxes.  I love it.</p>
<p>Best of all, unlike Dreamhost, they are transparent when they have issues or fuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132547</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, you're correct that Pair offers a mailing list service, and I did investigate it.  However I found it completely unsuitable for my needs-- as explained in some detail in the first of my posts that Daniel linked.  PairList has been in an "... ongoing testing and development phase..." for something like five years now.  The real problem is their choice of mailing list software, and the difficulty in configuring and customizing it.  Being free (for however long) was not a good enough reason to keep banging my head against their solution trying to make it do what I wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, you&#8217;re correct that Pair offers a mailing list service, and I did investigate it.  However I found it completely unsuitable for my needs&#8211; as explained in some detail in the first of my posts that Daniel linked.  PairList has been in an &#8220;&#8230; ongoing testing and development phase&#8230;&#8221; for something like five years now.  The real problem is their choice of mailing list software, and the difficulty in configuring and customizing it.  Being free (for however long) was not a good enough reason to keep banging my head against their solution trying to make it do what I wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Walzer</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132545</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Walzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one reason I run my own webserver out of my office on a DSL line (using Mac OS X Server). It gives me complete control of my setup. I also use a fairly old-school Mac mailing list program, Macjordomo--http://macjordomo.med.cornell.edu/. In terms of communicating with my customers, it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one reason I run my own webserver out of my office on a DSL line (using Mac OS X Server). It gives me complete control of my setup. I also use a fairly old-school Mac mailing list program, Macjordomo&#8211;http://macjordomo.med.cornell.edu/. In terms of communicating with my customers, it works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Keniger</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/382/pairs-double-entendre#comment-132544</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Keniger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pair does have a mailing list service, pairlist.com, to which you can get access if you have an account:

http://www.pair.com/services/mailing_lists/

At the moment it's free but they will be charging for it in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pair does have a mailing list service, pairlist.com, to which you can get access if you have an account:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pair.com/services/mailing_lists/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pair.com/services/mailing_lists/</a></p>
<p>At the moment it&#8217;s free but they will be charging for it in future.</p>
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