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	<title>Comments on: The Broken Web Editor</title>
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	<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor</link>
	<description>Mac &#38; Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leeg</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136500</link>
		<dc:creator>leeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, well now I've bought MarsEdit, and I'm not ashamed to say that my position has changed since my earlier post and offer an explanation ;-).

The problem I have which MarsEdit solves is this: when I'm in a web browser, I start surfing the web.  I'm doing it now; because I bought ME I had to go to the red-sweater store, and then I was in the browser, so I thought "I know, I'll go back and comment on that Broken Web Editor post"... undoubtedly I'll get distracted by something else soon enough too.  This is not a problem with the web editor, but &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a problem with trying to get something done in the browser context.  MarsEdit removes me from that context, so I can see in OmniFocus that I'd decided to make a blog entry, then just fire MarsEdit up to get it written.  No distractions, bosh, job done.  As I already spend enough time at the computer at work, saving time when I'm using it at home is easily worth $30.

So, there we go, I make mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, well now I&#8217;ve bought MarsEdit, and I&#8217;m not ashamed to say that my position has changed since my earlier post and offer an explanation ;-).</p>
<p>The problem I have which MarsEdit solves is this: when I&#8217;m in a web browser, I start surfing the web.  I&#8217;m doing it now; because I bought ME I had to go to the red-sweater store, and then I was in the browser, so I thought &#8220;I know, I&#8217;ll go back and comment on that Broken Web Editor post&#8221;&#8230; undoubtedly I&#8217;ll get distracted by something else soon enough too.  This is not a problem with the web editor, but <em>is</em> a problem with trying to get something done in the browser context.  MarsEdit removes me from that context, so I can see in OmniFocus that I&#8217;d decided to make a blog entry, then just fire MarsEdit up to get it written.  No distractions, bosh, job done.  As I already spend enough time at the computer at work, saving time when I&#8217;m using it at home is easily worth $30.</p>
<p>So, there we go, I make mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jalkut</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136123</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jalkut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi donnacha - I will probably make a point of blogging when 2.5 goes "GM" ... I'm really excited it's finally here. Will definitely eliminate a lot of trouble for MarsEdit users, both on and off the web form.

I am always considering changes to MarsEdit to take advantage of new WP features. The most asked for is support for editing pages, so that is high on my list.

Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi donnacha - I will probably make a point of blogging when 2.5 goes &#8220;GM&#8221; &#8230; I&#8217;m really excited it&#8217;s finally here. Will definitely eliminate a lot of trouble for MarsEdit users, both on and off the web form.</p>
<p>I am always considering changes to MarsEdit to take advantage of new WP features. The most asked for is support for editing pages, so that is high on my list.</p>
<p>Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: donnacha</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136122</link>
		<dc:creator>donnacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With today's release of an official demo of WP 2.5 RC1, it would be great if you could post about how MarsEdit will cope with the new version.


Are there any plans to add new features to MarsEdit to take advantage of new features in WP itself? 


It would also be interesting to hear your opinions on 2.5 generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With today&#8217;s release of an official demo of WP 2.5 RC1, it would be great if you could post about how MarsEdit will cope with the new version.</p>
<p>Are there any plans to add new features to MarsEdit to take advantage of new features in WP itself? </p>
<p>It would also be interesting to hear your opinions on 2.5 generally.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136016</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning this.  I've been experimenting with a WordPress blog and MarsEdit.  When I would upload my post using MarsEdit, the paragraph tags would disappear and my post would end up being a jumbled mess!

So, I tried using the WP editor, and even still it would keep trying to strip out the paragraph tags!  Perhaps this is a problem with WP and Safari (or WebKit-based browsers)?

I'll have to try using Camino or Firefox and see if this "fixes" my problems, or if it is some other problem.  If not that, then perhaps WP 2.5 might be the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning this.  I&#8217;ve been experimenting with a WordPress blog and MarsEdit.  When I would upload my post using MarsEdit, the paragraph tags would disappear and my post would end up being a jumbled mess!</p>
<p>So, I tried using the WP editor, and even still it would keep trying to strip out the paragraph tags!  Perhaps this is a problem with WP and Safari (or WebKit-based browsers)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to try using Camino or Firefox and see if this &#8220;fixes&#8221; my problems, or if it is some other problem.  If not that, then perhaps WP 2.5 might be the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jalkut</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136012</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jalkut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat: For what it's worth MarsEdit also offers the ability to edit the date for future posts. I even blogged about it:

&lt;a href="http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/317/future-posting-with-marsedit" rel="nofollow"&gt;Future Posting With MarsEdit&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat: For what it&#8217;s worth MarsEdit also offers the ability to edit the date for future posts. I even blogged about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/317/future-posting-with-marsedit" rel="nofollow">Future Posting With MarsEdit</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136011</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I noticed about Safari 3 is that it adds extra HTML tags from pasted text to keep styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I noticed about Safari 3 is that it adds extra HTML tags from pasted text to keep styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136010</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, I just said the same as Lloyd Budd in the blog post you linked to. Ah well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, I just said the same as Lloyd Budd in the blog post you linked to. Ah well :)</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136009</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress uses TinyMCE for their editor. Because of javascript issues in Safari 2 this led to the editor breaking alot. The tinyMCE team promises better Safari support in their newest release (TinyMCE 3). I have not had the chance to test the new version, but chances are big the new Wordpress (2.5) will use a modified version of the new TinyMCE (3), which will solve a lot of Safari issues, so they say.

Also, the Webkit team worked hard to solve most javascript issues in the new Safari (3) so I think when the new Wordpress comes out, you can safely use Safari 3 with Wordpress 2.5 and have a pleasant experience.

That aside, the Marsedit experience may be better. My workflow for blogposts is write them entirely out, then convert to HTML in Textmate, then copy paste, then fix issues. Not too convenient, but it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordpress uses TinyMCE for their editor. Because of javascript issues in Safari 2 this led to the editor breaking alot. The tinyMCE team promises better Safari support in their newest release (TinyMCE 3). I have not had the chance to test the new version, but chances are big the new Wordpress (2.5) will use a modified version of the new TinyMCE (3), which will solve a lot of Safari issues, so they say.</p>
<p>Also, the Webkit team worked hard to solve most javascript issues in the new Safari (3) so I think when the new Wordpress comes out, you can safely use Safari 3 with Wordpress 2.5 and have a pleasant experience.</p>
<p>That aside, the Marsedit experience may be better. My workflow for blogposts is write them entirely out, then convert to HTML in Textmate, then copy paste, then fix issues. Not too convenient, but it works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136008</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the MarsEdit interface but Ecto wins over because it has the ability to change the timestamp in Wordpress - useful for  future posts. Add this and Rich Text editing and MarsEdit will be a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the MarsEdit interface but Ecto wins over because it has the ability to change the timestamp in Wordpress - useful for  future posts. Add this and Rich Text editing and MarsEdit will be a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/475/the-broken-web-editor#comment-136002</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my worldview, MarsEdit &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; the Wordpress editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my worldview, MarsEdit <em>is</em> the Wordpress editor.</p>
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