Comments on: From Steve’s Mouth http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth Mac & Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut Sat, 17 May 2008 14:01:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Todd Stellanova http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136154 Todd Stellanova Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:22:14 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136154 It's kinda stunning just how overwhelmed the Apple iPhone Dev Center appears to be. From the amount of chatter I've seen on third-party sites, it appears that there was just as much interest in the Android SDK release as the iPhone release and yet...the developer.apple.com site appears much less ready to handle the traffic. The key difference is that the iPhone is already shipping and Apple is allowing some developers to actually install apps on real iPhone devices, whereas Android still appears to be in the unofficial-halfbakery stage with a random assortment of linux-based devices running around. It’s kinda stunning just how overwhelmed the Apple iPhone Dev Center appears to be. From the amount of chatter I’ve seen on third-party sites, it appears that there was just as much interest in the Android SDK release as the iPhone release and yet…the developer.apple.com site appears much less ready to handle the traffic.

The key difference is that the iPhone is already shipping and Apple is allowing some developers to actually install apps on real iPhone devices, whereas Android still appears to be in the unofficial-halfbakery stage with a random assortment of linux-based devices running around.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136107 Jeff Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:56:12 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136107 Actually, it does make me feel quite a bit better. Thanks. :) I have to think if they're giving preferential treatment, you'd be one of the earlier developers - certainly earlier than someone like me (I've been away from Cocoa development for eighteen months doing *shudder* Java integration work). Maybe it was just a "thank you, we've received your application" e-mail that was poorly written. Frankly, right now, I just want to be able to run the darn apps I'm hacking out on an actual iPhone, try out the accelerometer, see what I can do with the camera... find the limits of the hardware support through the official SDK. Y'know... play. Actually, it does make me feel quite a bit better. Thanks. :)

I have to think if they’re giving preferential treatment, you’d be one of the earlier developers - certainly earlier than someone like me (I’ve been away from Cocoa development for eighteen months doing *shudder* Java integration work).

Maybe it was just a “thank you, we’ve received your application” e-mail that was poorly written.

Frankly, right now, I just want to be able to run the darn apps I’m hacking out on an actual iPhone, try out the accelerometer, see what I can do with the camera… find the limits of the hardware support through the official SDK. Y’know… play.

]]> By: Daniel Jalkut http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136103 Daniel Jalkut Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:25:48 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136103 Jeff: If it makes you feel any better, I'm also still on the waiting list. As are a at least a few more established companies than mine, that I know of. Jeff: If it makes you feel any better, I’m also still on the waiting list. As are a at least a few more established companies than mine, that I know of.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136102 Jeff Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:23:43 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136102 <blockquote>Learn Cocoa and write an iPhone blog-editing app? I’ll get right on that!</blockquote> Unfortunately, not everybody gets to play at first. I'm guessing I'm not the only one to receive notice from Apple today that I didn't make the first round of chosen iPhone developers. Guess I'm stuck on Aspen for a while yet.

Learn Cocoa and write an iPhone blog-editing app? I’ll get right on that!

Unfortunately, not everybody gets to play at first. I’m guessing I’m not the only one to receive notice from Apple today that I didn’t make the first round of chosen iPhone developers. Guess I’m stuck on Aspen for a while yet.

]]> By: J Nozzi http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136087 J Nozzi Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:47:40 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136087 The only product I offer that might work well with the iPhone is my transcription application. I imagine a voice recorder app that links back to Transcriva. Since any voice recorder application should work fine, there's really no need for me to develop anything since this is sure to be done a thousand different ways in the first week (along-side to-do and recipe apps, of course :-)). With this in mind, what Geoff said can be extended by saying we need to think carefully about what types of applications others might build that work best with our own as well. It's always a marketing boon to say, "Works with the iPhone", even if they need to download a free utility or even an inexpensive third-party app to enable this interoperability. Many would gladly do so to extend the reach and range of their favorite apps. The only product I offer that might work well with the iPhone is my transcription application. I imagine a voice recorder app that links back to Transcriva. Since any voice recorder application should work fine, there’s really no need for me to develop anything since this is sure to be done a thousand different ways in the first week (along-side to-do and recipe apps, of course :-)).

With this in mind, what Geoff said can be extended by saying we need to think carefully about what types of applications others might build that work best with our own as well. It’s always a marketing boon to say, “Works with the iPhone”, even if they need to download a free utility or even an inexpensive third-party app to enable this interoperability. Many would gladly do so to extend the reach and range of their favorite apps.

]]> By: Geoff http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136051 Geoff Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:19:24 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136051 What about Black Ink or Clarion? These could be really useful for iPhone. Games, I think will be a big hit on the platform, and I can imagine education and music applications selling well too. I think developers in general will need to carefully think about what types of applications work best. I'm excited. What about Black Ink or Clarion? These could be really useful for iPhone. Games, I think will be a big hit on the platform, and I can imagine education and music applications selling well too.

I think developers in general will need to carefully think about what types of applications work best. I’m excited.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136045 Kevin Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:02:18 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136045 I think the SDK announcement went pretty well yesterday. It seems like pretty much everyone (devs and enterprise folks) got what they wanted. I've got to admit, I don't think I'd buy MarsEdit mobile (I do have the current version). It has nothing to do with MarsEdit, but more of the fact that with a tiny keyboard and an inability to screenshot/edit pictures I'm not sure it would be functional enough for my needs. I'd imagine you'd be able to snap a picture with the camera, select the picture, maybe crop it, add it to a post, type some text, and send it off. That functionality WOULD be attractive to some people though. Heck, I might have just convinced myself it would be useful for certain types of blog. Maybe I need to rethink my statement about MarsEdit mobile. "Build it and they will come!" I think the SDK announcement went pretty well yesterday. It seems like pretty much everyone (devs and enterprise folks) got what they wanted.

I’ve got to admit, I don’t think I’d buy MarsEdit mobile (I do have the current version). It has nothing to do with MarsEdit, but more of the fact that with a tiny keyboard and an inability to screenshot/edit pictures I’m not sure it would be functional enough for my needs. I’d imagine you’d be able to snap a picture with the camera, select the picture, maybe crop it, add it to a post, type some text, and send it off. That functionality WOULD be attractive to some people though. Heck, I might have just convinced myself it would be useful for certain types of blog. Maybe I need to rethink my statement about MarsEdit mobile.

“Build it and they will come!”

]]> By: alexr http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136040 alexr Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:20:33 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136040 Ah, there are the "bandwidth hog," "porn," "malicious," "privacy," etc. terms. Oh, and a special $99 developer program fee. I guess the $500 Select fee isn't enough? Ah, there are the “bandwidth hog,” “porn,” “malicious,” “privacy,” etc. terms. Oh, and a special $99 developer program fee. I guess the $500 Select fee isn’t enough?

]]> By: alexr http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136039 alexr Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:46:44 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136039 It feels like Scott just said "these are not the droids you're looking for." I mean, he's demoing Xcode and such, but at this point I can't believe that "the same SDK we use" can be true. There's just no way that the carriers will allow arbitrary network access on the cell network. It feels like Scott just said “these are not the droids you’re looking for.” I mean, he’s demoing Xcode and such, but at this point I can’t believe that “the same SDK we use” can be true. There’s just no way that the carriers will allow arbitrary network access on the cell network.

]]> By: brotherStefan http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136038 brotherStefan Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:56:28 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/477/from-steves-mouth#comment-136038 Idiots need not apply. Idiots need not apply.

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