Comments on: Intel Impatience http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience Mac & Technology Writings by Daniel Jalkut Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:10:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Red Sweater Blog » Blog Archive » Universal Appeal http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-684 Red Sweater Blog » Blog Archive » Universal Appeal Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:12:24 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-684 [...] In addition to more tangible features, both FastScripts and Clarion are now Universal - tested on a Core Duo iMac. To Apple’s credit, I spent more time getting to the iMac (I don’t own one yet - waiting impatiently for the MacBook Pro) than I did testing or fixing bugs. The only issue encountered turned out not to be an Intel issue at all, but rather a gcc 4.0 bug fix that causes a serious incompatibility with some gcc 3.3 code. Everything else “just worked.” Go Apple! [...] [...] In addition to more tangible features, both FastScripts and Clarion are now Universal – tested on a Core Duo iMac. To Apple’s credit, I spent more time getting to the iMac (I don’t own one yet – waiting impatiently for the MacBook Pro) than I did testing or fixing bugs. The only issue encountered turned out not to be an Intel issue at all, but rather a gcc 4.0 bug fix that causes a serious incompatibility with some gcc 3.3 code. Everything else “just worked.” Go Apple! [...]

]]> By: Peter Adler http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-573 Peter Adler Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:44:47 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-573 <i>On the other hand, the little card slot has plenty of bandwidth, and could conceivably support a card with two FW800 ports</i>... Fair enough. And as soon as someone actually manufactures a FW800 Express Card, then that may be less of an issue...at least for some people (not for me; I want it on the motherboard, so I can use the card slot for other things). However, conceiving of such a card doesn't mean the card exists today. At least as far as I can find, no one manufactures <strong>any</strong> Express Card slot devices today. So anyone who buys a MacBook will have a slot that's useful in theory, but may not be useful in practice for many months. No thanks. I find this especially infuriating in light of two developments: the stories I heard from both Apple employees and from Oxford Semiconductor's rep at the show that FW800 had been left off specifically because Intel fought with Apple, and Apple caved to get the product out in time; and the FUD comment earlier this week from a Gartner analyst (quoted in an eWeek article about Intel's Apple group) that Apple needed to use commodity Intel motherboards in order to capitalize on economies of scale. To me, this suggests that Intel thinks Apple's just another clone company, who'll buy whatever crap Intel can shovel out their doors. ...<i>(though I’m not sure how they’d handle the connectors)</i>... Probably with a dongle. On the other hand, the little card slot has plenty of bandwidth, and could conceivably support a card with two FW800 ports…

Fair enough. And as soon as someone actually manufactures a FW800 Express Card, then that may be less of an issue…at least for some people (not for me; I want it on the motherboard, so I can use the card slot for other things).

However, conceiving of such a card doesn’t mean the card exists today. At least as far as I can find, no one manufactures any Express Card slot devices today. So anyone who buys a MacBook will have a slot that’s useful in theory, but may not be useful in practice for many months. No thanks.

I find this especially infuriating in light of two developments: the stories I heard from both Apple employees and from Oxford Semiconductor’s rep at the show that FW800 had been left off specifically because Intel fought with Apple, and Apple caved to get the product out in time; and the FUD comment earlier this week from a Gartner analyst (quoted in an eWeek article about Intel’s Apple group) that Apple needed to use commodity Intel motherboards in order to capitalize on economies of scale. To me, this suggests that Intel thinks Apple’s just another clone company, who’ll buy whatever crap Intel can shovel out their doors.

…(though I’m not sure how they’d handle the connectors)…

Probably with a dongle.

]]> By: Jon Hendry http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-571 Jon Hendry Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:45:23 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-571 "If it’s 500MHz, it’s not an iBook G4. " Also, I don't think the G4s were offered without a DVD player. I, too, am using a 500 MHz G3 iBook, and placed my order for the new Book on keynote day. “If it’s 500MHz, it’s not an iBook G4. ”

Also, I don’t think the G4s were offered without a DVD player.

I, too, am using a 500 MHz G3 iBook, and placed my order for the new Book on keynote day.

]]> By: Jon Hendry http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-570 Jon Hendry Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:43:26 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-570 "But given the history of 1.0 releases (and personally, I’m really pissed off that they left the FW800 port off)" On the other hand, the little card slot has plenty of bandwidth, and could conceivably support a card with two FW800 ports (though I'm not sure how they'd handle the connectors). “But given the history of 1.0 releases (and personally, I’m really pissed off that they left the FW800 port off)”

On the other hand, the little card slot has plenty of bandwidth, and could conceivably support a card with two FW800 ports (though I’m not sure how they’d handle the connectors).

]]> By: Andy Lee http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-568 Andy Lee Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:24:41 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-568 Daniel, thanks for the Script Editor tip for launching Terminal. I'll keep it in mind in case I need it some day. Oh, and I'll add my thumbs up to the Target Disk mode approach. I used it at work a few months ago to install OS X on a G3 tower (I think) that didn't have a DVD drive. Daniel, thanks for the Script Editor tip for launching Terminal. I’ll keep it in mind in case I need it some day.

Oh, and I’ll add my thumbs up to the Target Disk mode approach. I used it at work a few months ago to install OS X on a G3 tower (I think) that didn’t have a DVD drive.

]]> By: Volker http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-567 Volker Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:44:15 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-567 iBook TargetDisk mode installation: Works like a charm. Had to install a PowerBook with a non functional superdrive (due to car rolling over the PB). Did take 15 minutes or so. iBook TargetDisk mode installation: Works like a charm. Had to install a PowerBook with a non functional superdrive (due to car rolling over the PB). Did take 15 minutes or so.

]]> By: Peter Adler http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-558 Peter Adler Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:19:38 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-558 Well, probably. But given the history of 1.0 releases (and personally, I'm <i>really pissed off</i> that they left the FW800 port off), I'd wait for the second-gen, even if it takes six months. Anyway, that's my own plan... Well, probably. But given the history of 1.0 releases (and personally, I’m really pissed off that they left the FW800 port off), I’d wait for the second-gen, even if it takes six months.

Anyway, that’s my own plan…

]]> By: Daniel Jalkut http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-556 Daniel Jalkut Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:54:41 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-556 Peter: You're absolutely right. I am so out of date I've undersold my out of dateness! I'm working with a G3 500Mhz iBook. Do I deserve a MacBook or what? Peter: You’re absolutely right. I am so out of date I’ve undersold my out of dateness! I’m working with a G3 500Mhz iBook. Do I deserve a MacBook or what?

]]> By: Peter Adler http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-555 Peter Adler Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:19:08 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-555 If it's 500MHz, it's not an iBook G4. The G3s are 300-900MHz (clamshell: 300-466, rectangular 500-900), while the G4s are 800MHz-1.42GHz. The overlap is at 800MHz, where there are both 12" G3 and G4 models; the G4 models say "iBook G4" conveniently on the bottom of the display. If it’s 500MHz, it’s not an iBook G4. The G3s are 300-900MHz (clamshell: 300-466, rectangular 500-900), while the G4s are 800MHz-1.42GHz. The overlap is at 800MHz, where there are both 12″ G3 and G4 models; the G4 models say “iBook G4″ conveniently on the bottom of the display.

]]> By: Daniel Jalkut http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/88/intel-impatience/comment-page-1#comment-553 Daniel Jalkut Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:41:34 +0000 http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/?p=88#comment-553 I had a chance to spend a few hours today with an Intel iMac with Xcode installed. (If you're reading, thanks again!). All of my products now "check out" with the encoding problem worked-around. But there were a few other changes I wanted to make before releasing updates, so I think I'll probably head to the Apple Store one final time to do a "sanity check" before releasing them. I had a chance to spend a few hours today with an Intel iMac with Xcode installed. (If you’re reading, thanks again!). All of my products now “check out” with the encoding problem worked-around. But there were a few other changes I wanted to make before releasing updates, so I think I’ll probably head to the Apple Store one final time to do a “sanity check” before releasing them.

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